Loyalist Jamie Bryson hits back at Kyle Paisley who challenged him to defend that for which he stands

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Rev Kyle Paisley has provided a commentary of my Belfast Telegraph interview; I feel it important to respond to this article because I find it astounding on many levels.

Before I respond to his article I think it is important to set in context Mr Paisley’s background. He is of course the son of the former DUP leader, the late Ian Paisley. He is also a minister in the Free Presbyterian Church in England. It is clear that Kyle has some sort of issue with the DUP, as a quick google search will find him popping up to condemn the party his father formed over almost every controversial issue. Quite why a minister in England would feel the need to do this is beyond me, I can only conclude that he believes-wrongly – that because of his second name he has some kind of divine right to act as the moral conscience of Unionism, a moral compass that appears extremely skewed on his part.

Mr Paisley begins by defending the system – the mandatory coalition; he decrees it as ‘democratic.’ Further to this he even provides us with a quote from the Oxford dictionary. A couple of paragraphs later he concedes that mandatory coalition “is by no means a perfect form of government.”

If you were to ask the most elementary politics student to give you a couple of examples of what the cornerstones of democracy are, I would suggest the majority would say it is the right to vote a party out of government and the right to an opposition. Of course here in Northern Ireland we have neither of these versions of democracy. Let us not forget that Ian Paisley, Kyle’s father, campaigned strongly against the Belfast Agreement and mandatory coalition and his deputy who is now the joint First Minister said that “the only cabinet the Provos should be in is made of wood and has brass handles.” I think I would like to hear Kyle reveal whether he opposed the Belfast Agreement at the time or was he an outspoken yes supporter?

Perhaps I should expand on the point I made in the telegraph that prompted this particular outburst from Kyle Paisley. I stated that what we have in Northern Ireland is peace with a gun to its head, and so it is. Sinn Fein/IRA, who Kyle Paisley seems to laud as some kind of great peace makers, have not once apologised for their campaign of terror. As a matter of fact they actually revel in it. What does this logically tell us? It is quite clear that if the IRA feel their activities were justified and still to this day stand over those – with this knowledge it is then the only logical conclusion to which to come that their participation in our bastardised ‘democracy’ is no more than a tactic by Sinn Fein/IRA. (DUP members aren’t allowed to say Sinn Fein/IRA anymore. It doesn’t play well with the fact they are sustaining them in Government).

If Sinn Fein/IRA felt tomorrow that the ‘democracy’ which is designed to grant them a mandatory veto over the country they are pledged to destroying was no longer to their liking, then they would have no problem going back to what they know best. This is a point that is seemingly lost amongst the minds of the pro agreement masses that buy into the flowery rhetoric deployed by Sinn Fein/IRA. Look beyond the honeyed words and see the truth.

Sinn Fein/IRA did not wake up and suddenly become democrats. They decided they needed to change tactics to achieve their goal and at this point in time they are gaining more from peace than war. Make no mistake about it, if they thought that more would be gained by war than peace, they would have no hesitation in dragging us back into their campaign of terror. Only a fool would believe otherwise.

Kyle Paisley also makes reference to IRA decommissioning – yes the old sackcloth and ashes of decommissioning. Of course there was no sackcloth and ashes, and there was no visible decommissioning, instead we had to take the word of Father Alec Reid, once described as the ‘Provo priest’ and a close confidant of Gerry Adams, who of course is
a man well renowned for telling the truth! Of course I suppose Kyle Paisley would prefer we didn’t mention the fact that so called ‘dissident’ groups have used, and are using, IRA weapons and semtex? Who do we think will exact revenge for the murder of Jock Davison? It will be the so called ‘dissidents’ as a favour for their former comrades who will take on the so called criminals who murdered Jock Davison. This of course will be another occasion when Sinn Fein/IRA will be happy enough for the gun to be used again, only this time their dissident ‘enemies’ will pull the trigger. It is not often we do favours for our enemies now – is it?

Kyle Paisley then goes on to enter into more personal attacks on me. He accuses me of delusions of grandeur. This from the same person who is the local media’s favourite tool when it comes to condemning Unionism, a tool deployed from England I may add. Mr Paisley of course wants St Patrick’s flag to fly over City Hall and thinks that designated days is a good ‘compromise’.

The icing on the cake however is this remark by Kyle Paisley ” it is sacrireligious nonsense for him to draw inspiration for his small, fading cause, from Christ”. I wonder did he make the same remarks about his own brother, Ian Paisley Jnr, who last week gave thanks to God for his election victory? Does Kyle Paisley condemn the previous words of the founder of the Church of which he is a minister, his own late Father, Rev Ian Paisley? Was it sacrireligious nonsense when Ian Paisley claimed to be doing God’s will? Or, is it ok to draw inspiration from God as long as you subscribe to the same political viewpoint as Kyle Paisley?

The whole commentary piece by Kyle is riddled with hypocrisy; you could drive a bus through it. I think that the mind that is at sixes and sevens is that of Kyle Paisley. I hope he responds and answers the questions I have raised in this article, or perhaps we will not hear from him again until he decides to use his second name to help prop up the shameful peace process or to condemn his own community.

20 thoughts on “Loyalist Jamie Bryson hits back at Kyle Paisley who challenged him to defend that for which he stands

  1. He’s had some help with that, I’d love to read the draft that young Bryson sent across this morning , I suspect Eamonn has had a hand in tidying it up

    • The prose seems to become a bit, shall we say, remedial during the final paragraph. I presume that’s the part Jamie actually penned himself after the rest was written for him.

      (I say “penned”, of course I mean “crayoned”.)

    • It has Mark “Tatty” Gordon all over it,Tatty is a former glue sniffer turned pastor or something along those lines, And in who,s home Bryson was arrested in after 24 hours on the run.

  2. He may have had some help with it, but it is still ‘sacrireligious’.
    Kyle, I think your only mistake was giving this goon credence by answering him in the first place.
    But he does imply you shouldn’t have a voice because you’re based in England.
    Is his loyalty not to England and the UK?

    • I think we should continue with this, I don’t like Jamies views on religion and I put him on the same level as Valérie Bemeriki, Georges Ruggiu and Kantano Habimana!

  3. Awk Jamie Jamie, stop using words you don’t understand. A Compromise what it is, if there was no compromise the flag wouldn’t be there at all. You say Sinn Fein/IRA like very member of the IRA was in Sinn Fein and every member of Sinn Fein was in the IRA when they were not. A gun to its head, awk get over yourself. Also, I’m sure Kyle, and other educated people, do not go to school children to get their definitions of words like democracy. He admits our Government is flawed, and like everything, it is but it’s still democratic, people STILL voted for it so get over yourself.

  4. Jamie you do know your opinion doesn’t matter, I wonder what type of job you’ll get with your sectarian views, convictions for orchestrating riots 19 miles from your mother and fathers house in 43 Rosepark, Donaghadee.

    I know your mother is a die hard supporter of you, how about your dad?

    Is he ashamed, he hasn’t been down to City Hall claiming you’re a scapegoat.

    I told Bangor Jobcentre about you working and claiming at the same time, speaking to Kare Kabs there too Jamie. They said they don’t want you back and your only after a government funded peace II community work job!

    Frankie is the name, I look forward to bumping into you outside Asda and inside Bloomfields.

    • Makes sense. The English see NI as an embarrassing uncle who is tolerated rather than respected. And JB is the reason why.

    • I wish we could have our own laws instead of English MP’s deciding for us. That is what the NI assembly is for.

      But you have trouble makers like Jamie Bryson in the background who go out of their way to try and whip up trouble!

  5. Jamie when are you going to retract your uvf statements and admit that they not only murdered Innocent Catholics, but Innocent Protestants too. Your view point is like many of people your age in the North Down area, who idolise any Protestant with a story to tell.

    Do tell Jamie, did Pastor Jackie McArthur give you British & Irish history lesson. Did you learn Herbie Roy was what inspired many young men like yourself, and not Gusty Spence who murdered Peter Ward?

  6. Where to start….

    “He is also a minister in the Free Presbyterian Church in England. It is clear
    that Kyle has some sort of issue with the DUP, as a quick google search will
    find him popping up to condemn the party his father formed over almost every
    controversial issue. Quite why a minister in England would feel the need to do
    this is beyond me, I can only conclude that he believes-wrongly – that because
    of his second name he has some kind of divine right to act as the moral
    conscience of Unionism, a moral compass that appears extremely skewed on his
    part

    He might be condemning his family’s party because, well, maybe, just perhaps HE
    DOESN’T AGREE WITH A LOT OF THEIR BACKWARD LOOKING NONESENSE? His surname isunlikely to make him feel like he has a duty to criticise, on the contrary he’s
    leaving himself open to the ‘Lundy’ path of criticism.

    Is it really necessary to highlight that he is a minister from England? If so then it is presumably in the context of “what would he know from from over THERE” which would serve to undermine any previous preaching the author has done in the past about the UK, Britishness and such like.

    Why do does Jamie Bryson assume that Kyle is using some sort of “some kind of divine right to act as the moral conscience of Unionism” as opposed to just offering a level headed criticism?

    Such pompous accusations serve to undermine Bryson’s rebuttal, it should be easy enough to pick through Kyle’s points (if they are wrong) WITHOUT having to distort the context of the
    criticism to a ludicrous level.

    Really, what is the point in babbling on about ‘context’ and then not having the good grace to use ‘context’ in an honest fashion.

    That first paragraph was nothing more than character-twisting worthy of some of the
    more nasty American news networks.

    “Let us not forget that Ian Paisley, Kyle’s father, campaigned strongly against the Belfast Agreement and mandatory coalition and his deputy who is now the joint First Minister said that “the only cabinet the Provos should be in is made of wood and has brass handles.” I think I would like to hear Kyle reveal whether he opposed the Belfast Agreement at the time
    or was he an outspoken yes supporter?”

    His father also made an incredible U-turn, what a pointless argument.

    “who Kyle Paisley seems to laud as some kind of great peace makers…” – Where and when exactly did Kyle do this?

    “What does this logically tell us? It is quite clear that if the IRA feel their activities were justified and still to this day stand over those – with this knowledge it is then the only logical conclusion to which to come that their participation in our bastardised ‘democracy’ is no more than a tactic by Sinn Fein/IRA”

    Or, (proper) logically speaking, perhaps they had no other choice than to accept the agreement (and therefore British rule and the de facto acceptance of the failure of their ‘military’ ambitions against the UK).

    “If Sinn Fein/IRA felt tomorrow that the ‘democracy’ which is designed to grant them a mandatory veto over the country they are pledged to destroying was no longer to their liking, then they would have no problem going back to what they know best. This is a point that is seemingly lost amongst the minds of the pro agreement masses that buy into the flowery rhetoric deployed by Sinn Fein/IRA. Look beyond the honeyed words and see the truth.”

    And likewise loyalist paramilitaries would have no problem doing the same and no doubt the British army would have to do likewise, a 3 way tie there Jamie, more irrelevant hogwash.

    “Sinn Fein/IRA did not wake up and suddenly become democrats. They decided they needed to change tactics to achieve their goal and at this point in time they are gaining more from peace than war. Make no mistake about it, if they thought that more would be gained by war than peace, they would have no hesitation in dragging us back into their campaign of terror. Only a fool would believe otherwise.”

    And who does this not apply to? The UVF? The USA? The UK? Russia? Japan?

    The IRA achieved next to nothing in 30 odd years. Now at least they have runner up prizes and a green carrot to dangle in front of the republican donkey. That’s better than what they had before and it’s still next to nothing.

    “He accuses me of delusions of grandeur.” – Well,is he right or wrong? If he’s wrong, then say so, don’t try to distract the reader with a St Patrick’s flag (which is what Bryson just did).

    “it is sacrireligious nonsense for him to draw inspiration for his small, fading cause, from Christ”. I wonder did he make the same remarks about his own brother, Ian Paisley Jnr, who last week gave thanks to God for his election victory?
    Does Kyle Paisley condemn the previous words of the founder of the Church of which he is a minister, his own late Father, Rev Ian Paisley? Was it sacrireligious nonsense when Ian Paisley claimed to be doing God’s will?
    Or, is it ok to draw inspiration from God as long as you subscribe to the same political viewpoint as Kyle Paisley?”

    Bryson used Christ as a parallel with his own situation, Ian Og gave thanks to his God for a victory, something done by people of faith the world over. Two different situations.

    Maybe Kyle does condemn some of the words of his late father, according to Bryson he spent a lot of time sniping at the DUP (FROM ENGLAND NO LESS!!!) so inevitably there’d be a class
    of sorts. So yes, he may well have.

    “The whole commentary piece by Kyle is riddled with hypocrisy”. Bull Hickey, Bryson has simply stretched, distorted and peppered with straw-men and distractions the criticism from Kyle and it is this mutant argument that bears no resemblance to the original that has become inviting to a thrill seeking bus driver, not the original argument itself which, from a page long criticism has been quoted (as far as I can see)ONCE in this piece.

    Only ONE quote and a whole load of context free (or rather context-twisted) bile.

    Jamie, you just sound bitter.

    • I have written before on here and newsletter, if you ignore him he will go away eventually. He is a wee coward who hides behind mummy when he’s in bother, like when his mummy louise moneybags bryson went to cityhall claiming he’s a scapegoat.

      He is far from middleclass and I was told by a leading journalist who I will not name, that the Bryson family are quite wealthy and that big house they built in Groomsport proves it.

      His ma thinks the sun shines out of his ass, sooner we ignore him and get back to normality the better.

  7. It has to be remembered that Bryson is a middle class mummy’s boy from Donaghadee pretending to be some kind of working class loyalist hero. He is in fact a fraud.
    Despite his comfortable start in life, he has amounted to nothing more than a petty career criminal who is currently running up a massive legal aid bill attempting to defend himself against a charge which if he had just admitted to he would have served his sentence by now.
    He purposely set himself up as a leader of the loyalist fleg protests ranting at the time on his facebook page and in fact doing the dirty work of the DUP, who he goes out of his way to criticise, but appears to have a problem whe Kyle Paisley does the same.

    The kid is an oxymoron, actually scratch that he’s just a moron.

    Hopefully when he’s a bit older he’ll realise this and repent for his idiocy.

    • Contact Sunday World about the flags he put up in helens bay 2 years before protests, they couldn’t name him due to him being 17 year old thug!

  8. Jamie Bryson is a true loyalist. Loyal only to anti-Irish sentiment despite living in (colonised) Ireland.

  9. Did young Jamie Bryson really write, “. . it is then the only logical conclusion to which to come . .”, rather than “to come to” ? How very Drydenesque! Of course, Edward Gibbon a century after Dryden made a pseudo-latinate dogma of never allowing a pre-position to occupy the final post-position. So, what was perfectly fine and natural for Chaucer, Spenser and Bacon, Shakespeare and the King James Bible, Addison, Hazlitt, Ruskin, and the more Modern English Usage of H.W. Fowler as successively revised by Gowers, Burchfield and Butterfield, does not come up to Jamie Bryson’s stricter standards. But then, did young Jamie Bryson really write, ” . . . to defend that for which he stands”, rather than “to defend what he stands for” ? All this is corseted, prescriptivist pedantry up with which no writer or reader should have to put.

  10. Since Bryson stepped forward as the spokesperson of the fleg protest it has dwindled to a tiny handful of protesters at BCH,Now Bryson may claim this is due to the PSNI “persecution of protestants” when in reality any person with a bit of wit caught on till Him/Frazer/Dowson and there inflated ego’s,Being a loyalist terrorist group apologist wins you no favors either.

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